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hawtistic:

god-my-oh:

theaubisticagenda:

goldenheartedrose:

hawtistic:

I am sick and tired of feeling like fucking Cassandra when I tell people about Jon Stewart being a raging ableist. And now I have video proof: the interview with Naomi Watts which I saw over my fall break a year and a half ago, which made me erupt in fury and instantly lose all respect for Jon Stewart.

I’ve come close to being triggered by people on here, including my friends, treating him as some kind of savior. (I mean, shouldn’t the “Rally For Sanity” be big enough of a clue that he isn’t the biggest friend of disabled folks?)

I can’t watch the video because I know I’ll be triggered again, but the words he said are etched into my brain: ”Uh yeah, this is a benefit AGAINST autism, not FOR autism. Who out there is saying ‘Go Autism!’?” 

Jon Stewart has been dead to me since October 7, 2010. And if you can see this and still support him, you may as well be too.

I reblogged this originally back when it was first posted, but yeah, I sort of doubly triggered myself by watching this again (and reading the notes on this post), but yeah.  Jon Stewart is a piece of shit and I’m not sorry for thinking so, and if you are going to rush to defend him? You’re terrible and feel free to unfollow me right the fuck now.

"Who would support something FOR autism? Wouldn’t that be cruel?"  No.  No, it wouldn’t.  Fuck you, Jon.  Fuck you.

Content Warning for personal story including censored ableist slurs, internalized ableism, stealth eugenics references, and strong emotional reactions.

I’ve watched The Daily Show with John Stewart since I was around 11 years old. I loved his show. It was Jewish (whoot, representation!), funny, and dealt with topics I enjoyed. 

In 2008 when he did that fundraiser for Autism Speaks called “Night of Too Many Stars” which featured Colbert, just by the way, he mentioned it on the show. I will never fucking forget what he said. (It was the exact same shit as before.)

You know 10/11 year old me did when he said that? I fucking cried. John Stewart made me fucking cry when he said that.Because who could be “for autism?” Yeah, I’m just a mistake. I actually threw shit at my TV I was so pissed. Because I knew I was nothing more than just a r****d. Just like everyone said. Because I shouldn’t have been born. After all, one of my fucking idols said it, so it must be true. And there’s an organization out there making sure people like me never get falsely born again. 

Thank god. 

Wouldn’t want more lazy, st***d, fucking r****ds like me, right? Us fucking burdens on society.

Just in case you ever wanted to know why I hate Autism Speaks so fucking much, or why I turn off the TV whenever Jon starts talking about autism? This is why. 

This was terrible but also I think it’s worth noting he has learned and grown a lot in the years since. The 2012 Night of Too Many Stars, while it had some problematic bits, stopped donating to Autism Speaks. Stewart talked about Naoki Higashida’s book The Reason I Jump as one of the most eye-opening books he’s ever read and mentioned he was impressed by, among other things, how Higashida doesn’t want to be cured. His recent extended interview with Ron Suskind about Life Animated reiterated that the point of services shouldn’t be to cure autism but to help autistic people do the best they can do with the skills they already have.

There’s a difference between basic ignorance and willful ignorance. Both can be equally hurtful, but the best approach for response differs. People like the heads of Autism Speaks are willfully ignorant with their steadfast refusal to listen to even the autistic people they hired in token positions. Most people who’ve supported Autism Speaks, however, tend to be simply ignorant and if they’re taught right they can stop being so hurtful. Jon Stewart fortunately seems to be the latter case and is learning from his past mistakes. So to take a terrible mistake of the past when he’s shown to have learned better and claim this is proof of him being “a raging ableist” (as opposed to someone who has done some ableist shit in the past but has learned from those mistakes) is a bit misleading and conterproductive.

Hmmmm. Okay that’s good to know but I’m still skeptical, especially since I’ve heard another account of this event that made it sound like it was something that came off mostly as lip service and didn’t show a commitment to change. I mean, the fact that he still holds fundraisers for Autism Speaks, which makes no bones about wanting a cure, still reeeeeeally sets off my alarm bells.

But also what you say in your last paragraph disturbs me because it’s seeming to want to dictate how I react to triggers. I start to feel almost physically ill because of Jon Stewart because of the event that I described in the original post, and it’s nobody’s business but mine whether I choose to forgive him or not. Which I most certainly don’t. 

So yeah, that’s a less harmful stance but I still think he’s shit. Especially since he and Colbert have also been known to make extremely frequent transmisogynist jokes. Also he harassed a woman of color in defense of his racist warm-up comedian.

He’s not holding fundraisers for Autism Speaks anymore.

I don’t mean to dictate your reactions. You have every right to feel however you do about Jon Stewart. I personally feel uncomfortable calling people shit for things they did years ago when there’s clear evidence of change. People need to be called out on their shit, but I don’t think it makes them shit, necessarily. Otherwise we’re all shit. I don’t think that; we’re only shit if we aren’t willing to learn and improve ourselves. Since the petition telling Stewart and Colbert to stop making transmisogynistic jokes gained steam last year, I can’t recall them making any such jokes this year, and Colbert did a great interview with Janet Mock (http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2014/02/21/op-ed-stephen-colbert-showed-piers-morgan-how-its-done). Now, it’s disappointing they haven’t made a direct public apology, but their actions show improvement I think that speaks for itself.

Again, I don’t mean to dictate your personal reaction by giving my reaction. You have every right to not forgive as you see fit.

theaubisticagenda:

goldenheartedrose:

hawtistic:

I am sick and tired of feeling like fucking Cassandra when I tell people about Jon Stewart being a raging ableist. And now I have video proof: the interview with Naomi Watts which I saw over my fall break a year and a half ago, which made me erupt in fury and instantly lose all respect for Jon Stewart.

I’ve come close to being triggered by people on here, including my friends, treating him as some kind of savior. (I mean, shouldn’t the “Rally For Sanity” be big enough of a clue that he isn’t the biggest friend of disabled folks?)

I can’t watch the video because I know I’ll be triggered again, but the words he said are etched into my brain: ”Uh yeah, this is a benefit AGAINST autism, not FOR autism. Who out there is saying ‘Go Autism!’?” 

Jon Stewart has been dead to me since October 7, 2010. And if you can see this and still support him, you may as well be too.

I reblogged this originally back when it was first posted, but yeah, I sort of doubly triggered myself by watching this again (and reading the notes on this post), but yeah.  Jon Stewart is a piece of shit and I’m not sorry for thinking so, and if you are going to rush to defend him? You’re terrible and feel free to unfollow me right the fuck now.

"Who would support something FOR autism? Wouldn’t that be cruel?"  No.  No, it wouldn’t.  Fuck you, Jon.  Fuck you.

Content Warning for personal story including censored ableist slurs, internalized ableism, stealth eugenics references, and strong emotional reactions.

I’ve watched The Daily Show with John Stewart since I was around 11 years old. I loved his show. It was Jewish (whoot, representation!), funny, and dealt with topics I enjoyed. 

In 2008 when he did that fundraiser for Autism Speaks called “Night of Too Many Stars” which featured Colbert, just by the way, he mentioned it on the show. I will never fucking forget what he said. (It was the exact same shit as before.)

You know 10/11 year old me did when he said that? I fucking cried. John Stewart made me fucking cry when he said that.Because who could be “for autism?” Yeah, I’m just a mistake. I actually threw shit at my TV I was so pissed. Because I knew I was nothing more than just a r****d. Just like everyone said. Because I shouldn’t have been born. After all, one of my fucking idols said it, so it must be true. And there’s an organization out there making sure people like me never get falsely born again. 

Thank god. 

Wouldn’t want more lazy, st***d, fucking r****ds like me, right? Us fucking burdens on society.

Just in case you ever wanted to know why I hate Autism Speaks so fucking much, or why I turn off the TV whenever Jon starts talking about autism? This is why. 

This was terrible but also I think it’s worth noting he has learned and grown a lot in the years since. The 2012 Night of Too Many Stars, while it had some problematic bits, stopped donating to Autism Speaks. Stewart talked about Naoki Higashida’s book The Reason I Jump as one of the most eye-opening books he’s ever read and mentioned he was impressed by, among other things, how Higashida doesn’t want to be cured. His recent extended interview with Ron Suskind about Life Animated reiterated that the point of services shouldn’t be to cure autism but to help autistic people do the best they can do with the skills they already have.

There’s a difference between basic ignorance and willful ignorance. Both can be equally hurtful, but the best approach for response differs. People like the heads of Autism Speaks are willfully ignorant with their steadfast refusal to listen to even the autistic people they hired in token positions. Most people who’ve supported Autism Speaks, however, tend to be simply ignorant and if they’re taught right they can stop being so hurtful. Jon Stewart fortunately seems to be the latter case and is learning from his past mistakes. So to take a terrible mistake of the past when he’s shown to have learned better and claim this is proof of him being “a raging ableist” (as opposed to someone who has done some ableist shit in the past but has learned from those mistakes) is a bit misleading and conterproductive.

Anyone From the AANE Creativity Conference Here on Tumblr? Let’s Follow Each Other!
Addendum to that earlier post

memoriescantwait:

I have mixed feelings on “autism acceptance” in general, but I do feel pretty strongly that the “it’s not a disability, just a difference!” thing is bullshit. And I have trouble understanding how anyone who actually has struggled with an autism-spectrum disorder and the difficulties it gives you - including with some very basic components of “being a functioning adult”, which have little to do with our society being “ableist” - can subscribe to that.

So I wish I could say this is only something I see among “self-diagnosed” fakers on Tumblr. But I know there are a lot of actually autistic people who agree with this view, from the time I’ve spent on other social-justice blogs.

And it just generally frustrates me how fucking polarized the whole discussion is. That either you get people like that, or you get the fearmongering Autism Speaks nutters who rant and rave about the “autism epidemic” and anti-vaccine bullshit, and act like verbal autistic people don’t have a right to complain about anything. I’d really like to find some blogger (ideally one who actually has an ASD) who shares my misgivings with autism-acceptance who doesn’t then go to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and start buying into hateful conspiracy garbage.

Argleblargh

Most of the autism acceptance people I know do acknowledge it as a disability, though (or that parts of it are or can be a disability, anyway, since there’s neutral and potentially positive traits tied to autism so I understand if people want to talk about the general condition as a “difference” so long as they’re not denying that the condition does involve disability)? The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network, the big autism acceptance group out there, consistently uses the language of disability and disability rights.

silversarcasm:

stop fucking equating autism with mras and bronies

there are autistic women and non binary people who are hurt by these people, and when you throw us under the bus all it means is that we are shunned and attacked by every fucking side and it’s disgusting

bronweathanharthad:

being disabled shouldn’t mean fearing for my life but here I am fearing for it because of this

and I can’t boycott Google because Google controls almost everything pertaining to electronics

I don’t want this project to happen

I do not want a company that favors eugenics and uses…

nomorepuzzleprofits:

Skip to the last third of the show for the interview. Ron Suskind sits down to talk about his book, and controversial “Everything Is Therapy” method of connecting to his son through Disney lines.

As soon as he sits down, he starts spitting out “crazy” and “insane” bombs to Jon.

Later on, Jon and him discuss how his son is “locked in a prison” and how they’re trying to get him out. How they’re sure “He’s not gone! He’s still in there! We’re trying to pull him out of there!”

Jon, I respect you as a comedian and political commentator, but your education when it comes to autism is horribly lacking. You use ableist slurs on your show all the time, and you fall right into Autism Speaks’ Fear and Helplessness rhetoric.

This is not cool.

I am also critical of the huge push that this book is getting. The idea of autistic children connecting social through media is beyond obvious. LITERALLY EVERYONE DOES THIS. IT’S WHY WE LOVE MOVIES.

It’s why fangirls write pages and pages and pages of meta-analysis on the most frivolous of popcorn-munching blow-‘em-up superhero movies.

BECAUSE WE AS A SOCIETY, AS HUMAN BEINGS, CONNECT SOCIALLY THROUGH MEDIA. WE CONNECT TO STORIES THAT RESONATE THROUGH US. THAT’S THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF STORYTELLING, CONGRATS YOU JUST PASSED GRADE 9 ENGLISH LIT.

But no, surely this situation must somehow be special because ~~mysterious unknowable puzzling mystery autism~~ Suddenly it’s FANTASTIC BREAKTHROUGH! And WOW! And OH MY GOD THE ~SPECIAL~ KID LEARNED SOMETHING! WE’VE DONE OUR JOB HERE!

Him connecting to the characters of Disney doesn’t make him especially autistic, it makes him human. Do not act like this is some magical over-arching miracle therapy that will work on all autistic children, or that you are super-duper connected parents for figuriing out the already obvious.

If you had had the opportunity to connect with other autistic people, even other non-verbal folks through blogs, they probably would have told you a giant “Well, duh! Obvious!”

But then you wouldn’t have been able to write a book about it, and make it into a national campaign like you’ve had some sort of miracle breakthrough with autism.

The absolute selfishness and cluelessness that non-autistic parents have when it comes to discovering the needs and talents of their own children astounds me on a daily basis.

And you’re going to be making an assload of money from it.

You are exactly why this blog exists.

(The link up top is Canadian, if you are American or international, try these links)

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/

http://www.ctv.ca/DailyShowwithJonStewart.aspx

On the positive side I give Jon points for acknowledging we shouldn’t be trying to “cure” autism. That’s pretty big progress.

Have you donated to Autism Speaks? Why? Did you know its more problematic than helpful if you did?
Anonymous

fishingboatproceeds:

EDIT: After tracking down the “source” of this, I can confirm that I have never donated to Autism Speaks. There is a doctor named John Green who works for Autism Speaks. I am not that doctor. I am not any kind of doctor. I am also not the John Green who studies Sasquatchery or the John Green who is a realtor in Mississippi. Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet, and check your sources.

I have gotten a lot of questions about this, but I don’t think I’ve ever donated to Autism Speaks. (I just looked through ten years of tax returns, and there’s no record of it.) I’m not sure how this rumor got started? (It’s possible that I did and just don’t have a record of it.) If anyone has a source for this, let me know, and I’ll try to get a definitive answer, but yeah, I don’t think I have.

(I have donated to a local organization in Indianapolis that works with people with autism, but they are not affiliated with Autism Speaks.)

theconcealedweapon:

When feminists blame male entitlement for Elliot Rodger’s murderous rampage, the worst that can happen to me is that women who don’t know me will stay away from me (which they have every right to do), and that women will assume that I’m dangerous if I act like an entitled Nice Guy (which they have every right to do, and which I could easily avoid by not acting like an entitled Nice Guy).

When people blame autism, the worst that can happen to me is that people will assume that I’m a ticking time bomb and that anything that mildly upsets me will send me into a violent rage. 

That’s why I find it completely ridiculous when MRAs complain about feminists “hating men”. If you blame mental illness for the murders instead of blaming male entitlement, you hate me a lot more than any feminist does.

mymphr:

AUTISM IS NOT THE REASON SHOOTINGS HAPPEN

AUTISM IS NOT THE TRIGGER FOR A MISOGYNIST TO KILL PEOPLE

AUTISTIC PEOPLE ARE NOT A DANGER TO SOCIETY BECAUSE OF BEING AUTISTIC

IF YOU CAN’T SEE THAT THE REASON THIS MAN KILLED IS MISOGYNY AND CONDITIONING AND HATRED FOR WOMEN, YOU ARE A HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND NEED TO SORT OUT YOUR PRIORITIES