Tumbly and Sharing (with Garterbelt)
Actually, that whole quote makes no sense, so it’s either missing words or…? I can’t tell what he’s referring to in a few spots, and the headline/author’s comments aren’t quite what he’s saying either. He also says it’s great for people on the spectrum so it reads like nonsensically tbh. The ‘lazy’ thing though—he’s said that before, but it was people relying solely on ‘Sheldon Cooper’-type stereotypes and thinking everyone on the spectrum was like that. It’s a free paper though so IDK.
Anonymous

Yeah, it’s confusing.

TIFF: Benedict Cumberbatch is sick of people calling his characters autistic

cumbertrekky:

In “the Imitation Game,” Benedict Cumberbatch plays the introverted, socially awkward math genius Alan Turing, who built the machine that cracked the German’s WWII Enigma machine and paved the way for modern computers. Many are drawing parallels between Turing and Cumberbatch’s Sherlock Holmes, suggesting he’s specializing in characters who exist somewhere on the autism spectrum. But Cumberbatch wants them to cut out that nonsense.

“Though Sherlock is an immediate comparison, they’re so different. Sherlock is a sociopathic show-off, and Alan was anything but that,” Cumberbatch tells Metro. “I don’t think he was on the spectrum. I think a lot of people are very lazy with that.”

It’s a suggestion Cumberbatch has heard raised again and again, and he’s frankly had enough of it. “I think it’s a really dangerous thing to toy with that,” he says. “People talk about me doing that quite a lot and that being a good thing for people who are on the spectrum, which is great. But I don’t go into a job going, ‘Is this autism? Is this Asperger’s? Is this some other form of slight learning difficulty or disability?’ I’m very wary of that, because I’ve met people with those conditions. It’s a real struggle all the time. Then these people pop up in my work and they’re sort of brilliant, and they on some levels almost offer false hope for the people who are going through the reality of it.”

I’m confused by this. When he talks about how Holmes and Turing are very different from one another, is trying to imply one is closer to the autism spectrum than the other?

Also, I don’t think Tony Atwood was being “lazy” when considering the possibility that Turing was autistic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrospective_diagnoses_of_autism

The “false hope” comment confuses me, moreso when talking about Turing than talking about Sherlock. Saying Sherlock could be a sort of “false hope” I get because he’s an unrealistic character, a superhero of sorts who could never exist in real life and ANYONE trying to be like him is in for a load of trouble. But Turing was a real person who experts have claimed was probably on the autism spectrum. His story’s not even hopeful what with the torture he faced and his death, so how is it even really “hope” let alone “false hope”? Is it false hope to say that someone on the spectrum can accomplish so much? Plenty of people who’ve been diagnosed have accomplished a lot. The majority of autistic people won’t accomplish that much, true, and any smaller accomplishment they can achieve should be worth celebrating without any expectation they grow up to win World War II and invent computers. The majority of gay people won’t win World War II and invent computers either, but you wouldn’t say that’s a reason to claim Alan Turing wasn’t gay, would you? So why can’t Turing be an autistic man who happened to be very successful (until he got in trouble with the bigoted laws, anyway)?

merryweatherblue:

I took my little brother (who falls on the autism spectrum) to see Guardians of the Galaxy and after this scene he lit up like a Christmas tree and screamed “He’s like me! He can’t do metaphors!” And for the rest of the film my brother stared at Drax in a state of rapture. 

So for the last 6 days I have heard my brother repeatedly quote all of the Drax lines from the movie verbatim (one of his talents), begin studying vocabulary test words, and tell everyone he knows that people with autism can also be superheroes.

Now I am not saying that Drax the Destroyer is, or was ever, intended to be autistic. All I am saying is that it warmed my heart to see my brother have an opportunity to identify himself with a character known for his strength, badassness, and honor. And that is pretty damn awesome. 

So while I adored Guardians of the Galaxy as a great fun loving film with cool characters I can do nothing but thank Marvel Studios and Dave Bautista for finally bringing a superhero to the screen that my little brother can relate to.

Defensiveness About Diagnosis

That NY Times article about “The Kids Who Beat Autism” got me annoyed because they never specified what “beating” autism entails. If someone is able to eventually develop skills they had trouble developing does that really make them “no longer autistic”?

Curious if I, a pretty successful college student diagnosed with Aspergers at age 5, still read as autistic, I did Simon Baron-Cohen’s AQ Test online. Got a score of 31, which is right in the mild autism range. But then I realized that I filled out the same quiz a few weeks ago when applying for a lab study at MIT, and while I never got the score back, I filled out my answers from a few weeks ago which I answered slightly differently (the line between “slightly agree” and “slightly disagree” is vague and confusing enough for answers to vary based on mood) and realized the score for those answers was 24, which is below the usual threshold for autism. Though it seems scoring 24 wasn’t enough to disqualify me from going to a screener at MIT to see if I fit any further autism research studies. I then tried the RDOS Aspie quiz and it seemingly thought I was neurotypical (got an Aspie score around 80 and Neurotypical score about 120-130, forget the exact number). Of course that quiz seemed kind of bullshit in parts (it seems the section that made me more neurotypical is that I’m not asexual and I like French kissing?). I do still fit the DSM diagnostic criteria which is the most important thing, but still, it’s weird to think some people might think I’m “no longer autistic” despite that.

Anyone else get what I’m feeling?

hawtistic:

god-my-oh:

theaubisticagenda:

goldenheartedrose:

hawtistic:

I am sick and tired of feeling like fucking Cassandra when I tell people about Jon Stewart being a raging ableist. And now I have video proof: the interview with Naomi Watts which I saw over my fall break a year and a half ago, which made me erupt in fury and instantly lose all respect for Jon Stewart.

I’ve come close to being triggered by people on here, including my friends, treating him as some kind of savior. (I mean, shouldn’t the “Rally For Sanity” be big enough of a clue that he isn’t the biggest friend of disabled folks?)

I can’t watch the video because I know I’ll be triggered again, but the words he said are etched into my brain: ”Uh yeah, this is a benefit AGAINST autism, not FOR autism. Who out there is saying ‘Go Autism!’?” 

Jon Stewart has been dead to me since October 7, 2010. And if you can see this and still support him, you may as well be too.

I reblogged this originally back when it was first posted, but yeah, I sort of doubly triggered myself by watching this again (and reading the notes on this post), but yeah.  Jon Stewart is a piece of shit and I’m not sorry for thinking so, and if you are going to rush to defend him? You’re terrible and feel free to unfollow me right the fuck now.

"Who would support something FOR autism? Wouldn’t that be cruel?"  No.  No, it wouldn’t.  Fuck you, Jon.  Fuck you.

Content Warning for personal story including censored ableist slurs, internalized ableism, stealth eugenics references, and strong emotional reactions.

I’ve watched The Daily Show with John Stewart since I was around 11 years old. I loved his show. It was Jewish (whoot, representation!), funny, and dealt with topics I enjoyed. 

In 2008 when he did that fundraiser for Autism Speaks called “Night of Too Many Stars” which featured Colbert, just by the way, he mentioned it on the show. I will never fucking forget what he said. (It was the exact same shit as before.)

You know 10/11 year old me did when he said that? I fucking cried. John Stewart made me fucking cry when he said that.Because who could be “for autism?” Yeah, I’m just a mistake. I actually threw shit at my TV I was so pissed. Because I knew I was nothing more than just a r****d. Just like everyone said. Because I shouldn’t have been born. After all, one of my fucking idols said it, so it must be true. And there’s an organization out there making sure people like me never get falsely born again. 

Thank god. 

Wouldn’t want more lazy, st***d, fucking r****ds like me, right? Us fucking burdens on society.

Just in case you ever wanted to know why I hate Autism Speaks so fucking much, or why I turn off the TV whenever Jon starts talking about autism? This is why. 

This was terrible but also I think it’s worth noting he has learned and grown a lot in the years since. The 2012 Night of Too Many Stars, while it had some problematic bits, stopped donating to Autism Speaks. Stewart talked about Naoki Higashida’s book The Reason I Jump as one of the most eye-opening books he’s ever read and mentioned he was impressed by, among other things, how Higashida doesn’t want to be cured. His recent extended interview with Ron Suskind about Life Animated reiterated that the point of services shouldn’t be to cure autism but to help autistic people do the best they can do with the skills they already have.

There’s a difference between basic ignorance and willful ignorance. Both can be equally hurtful, but the best approach for response differs. People like the heads of Autism Speaks are willfully ignorant with their steadfast refusal to listen to even the autistic people they hired in token positions. Most people who’ve supported Autism Speaks, however, tend to be simply ignorant and if they’re taught right they can stop being so hurtful. Jon Stewart fortunately seems to be the latter case and is learning from his past mistakes. So to take a terrible mistake of the past when he’s shown to have learned better and claim this is proof of him being “a raging ableist” (as opposed to someone who has done some ableist shit in the past but has learned from those mistakes) is a bit misleading and conterproductive.

Hmmmm. Okay that’s good to know but I’m still skeptical, especially since I’ve heard another account of this event that made it sound like it was something that came off mostly as lip service and didn’t show a commitment to change. I mean, the fact that he still holds fundraisers for Autism Speaks, which makes no bones about wanting a cure, still reeeeeeally sets off my alarm bells.

But also what you say in your last paragraph disturbs me because it’s seeming to want to dictate how I react to triggers. I start to feel almost physically ill because of Jon Stewart because of the event that I described in the original post, and it’s nobody’s business but mine whether I choose to forgive him or not. Which I most certainly don’t. 

So yeah, that’s a less harmful stance but I still think he’s shit. Especially since he and Colbert have also been known to make extremely frequent transmisogynist jokes. Also he harassed a woman of color in defense of his racist warm-up comedian.

He’s not holding fundraisers for Autism Speaks anymore.

I don’t mean to dictate your reactions. You have every right to feel however you do about Jon Stewart. I personally feel uncomfortable calling people shit for things they did years ago when there’s clear evidence of change. People need to be called out on their shit, but I don’t think it makes them shit, necessarily. Otherwise we’re all shit. I don’t think that; we’re only shit if we aren’t willing to learn and improve ourselves. Since the petition telling Stewart and Colbert to stop making transmisogynistic jokes gained steam last year, I can’t recall them making any such jokes this year, and Colbert did a great interview with Janet Mock (http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2014/02/21/op-ed-stephen-colbert-showed-piers-morgan-how-its-done). Now, it’s disappointing they haven’t made a direct public apology, but their actions show improvement I think that speaks for itself.

Again, I don’t mean to dictate your personal reaction by giving my reaction. You have every right to not forgive as you see fit.

theaubisticagenda:

goldenheartedrose:

hawtistic:

I am sick and tired of feeling like fucking Cassandra when I tell people about Jon Stewart being a raging ableist. And now I have video proof: the interview with Naomi Watts which I saw over my fall break a year and a half ago, which made me erupt in fury and instantly lose all respect for Jon Stewart.

I’ve come close to being triggered by people on here, including my friends, treating him as some kind of savior. (I mean, shouldn’t the “Rally For Sanity” be big enough of a clue that he isn’t the biggest friend of disabled folks?)

I can’t watch the video because I know I’ll be triggered again, but the words he said are etched into my brain: ”Uh yeah, this is a benefit AGAINST autism, not FOR autism. Who out there is saying ‘Go Autism!’?” 

Jon Stewart has been dead to me since October 7, 2010. And if you can see this and still support him, you may as well be too.

I reblogged this originally back when it was first posted, but yeah, I sort of doubly triggered myself by watching this again (and reading the notes on this post), but yeah.  Jon Stewart is a piece of shit and I’m not sorry for thinking so, and if you are going to rush to defend him? You’re terrible and feel free to unfollow me right the fuck now.

"Who would support something FOR autism? Wouldn’t that be cruel?"  No.  No, it wouldn’t.  Fuck you, Jon.  Fuck you.

Content Warning for personal story including censored ableist slurs, internalized ableism, stealth eugenics references, and strong emotional reactions.

I’ve watched The Daily Show with John Stewart since I was around 11 years old. I loved his show. It was Jewish (whoot, representation!), funny, and dealt with topics I enjoyed. 

In 2008 when he did that fundraiser for Autism Speaks called “Night of Too Many Stars” which featured Colbert, just by the way, he mentioned it on the show. I will never fucking forget what he said. (It was the exact same shit as before.)

You know 10/11 year old me did when he said that? I fucking cried. John Stewart made me fucking cry when he said that.Because who could be “for autism?” Yeah, I’m just a mistake. I actually threw shit at my TV I was so pissed. Because I knew I was nothing more than just a r****d. Just like everyone said. Because I shouldn’t have been born. After all, one of my fucking idols said it, so it must be true. And there’s an organization out there making sure people like me never get falsely born again. 

Thank god. 

Wouldn’t want more lazy, st***d, fucking r****ds like me, right? Us fucking burdens on society.

Just in case you ever wanted to know why I hate Autism Speaks so fucking much, or why I turn off the TV whenever Jon starts talking about autism? This is why. 

This was terrible but also I think it’s worth noting he has learned and grown a lot in the years since. The 2012 Night of Too Many Stars, while it had some problematic bits, stopped donating to Autism Speaks. Stewart talked about Naoki Higashida’s book The Reason I Jump as one of the most eye-opening books he’s ever read and mentioned he was impressed by, among other things, how Higashida doesn’t want to be cured. His recent extended interview with Ron Suskind about Life Animated reiterated that the point of services shouldn’t be to cure autism but to help autistic people do the best they can do with the skills they already have.

There’s a difference between basic ignorance and willful ignorance. Both can be equally hurtful, but the best approach for response differs. People like the heads of Autism Speaks are willfully ignorant with their steadfast refusal to listen to even the autistic people they hired in token positions. Most people who’ve supported Autism Speaks, however, tend to be simply ignorant and if they’re taught right they can stop being so hurtful. Jon Stewart fortunately seems to be the latter case and is learning from his past mistakes. So to take a terrible mistake of the past when he’s shown to have learned better and claim this is proof of him being “a raging ableist” (as opposed to someone who has done some ableist shit in the past but has learned from those mistakes) is a bit misleading and conterproductive.

Anyone From the AANE Creativity Conference Here on Tumblr? Let’s Follow Each Other!
Addendum to that earlier post

memoriescantwait:

I have mixed feelings on “autism acceptance” in general, but I do feel pretty strongly that the “it’s not a disability, just a difference!” thing is bullshit. And I have trouble understanding how anyone who actually has struggled with an autism-spectrum disorder and the difficulties it gives you - including with some very basic components of “being a functioning adult”, which have little to do with our society being “ableist” - can subscribe to that.

So I wish I could say this is only something I see among “self-diagnosed” fakers on Tumblr. But I know there are a lot of actually autistic people who agree with this view, from the time I’ve spent on other social-justice blogs.

And it just generally frustrates me how fucking polarized the whole discussion is. That either you get people like that, or you get the fearmongering Autism Speaks nutters who rant and rave about the “autism epidemic” and anti-vaccine bullshit, and act like verbal autistic people don’t have a right to complain about anything. I’d really like to find some blogger (ideally one who actually has an ASD) who shares my misgivings with autism-acceptance who doesn’t then go to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and start buying into hateful conspiracy garbage.

Argleblargh

Most of the autism acceptance people I know do acknowledge it as a disability, though (or that parts of it are or can be a disability, anyway, since there’s neutral and potentially positive traits tied to autism so I understand if people want to talk about the general condition as a “difference” so long as they’re not denying that the condition does involve disability)? The Autistic Self-Advocacy Network, the big autism acceptance group out there, consistently uses the language of disability and disability rights.

silversarcasm:

stop fucking equating autism with mras and bronies

there are autistic women and non binary people who are hurt by these people, and when you throw us under the bus all it means is that we are shunned and attacked by every fucking side and it’s disgusting

bronweathanharthad:

being disabled shouldn’t mean fearing for my life but here I am fearing for it because of this

and I can’t boycott Google because Google controls almost everything pertaining to electronics

I don’t want this project to happen

I do not want a company that favors eugenics and uses…